Quittintime: TAVERN OUTCASTS CHECK IN:

This is addressed to all:

Some of you still just don't get it.

What I said has nothing to do with personal agendas.

I actually LIKE everyone who has particpated in this thread. (Whether they have a personal agenda against me and are projecting that onto me... or not.)

And it has nothing to do with disagreement.

What it has to do with, is respect. And civility.

If you do not have respect for the person you are responding to, at least have enough respect for this forum and community to ACT LIKE you have some respect, when you make your post. And post in a civil manner.

I'll stick with the examples I have already used, though there are plenty of other examples to choose from...

Dino disagreed with those he posted to. He never called them names. He held some modicom of respect, at least for the community, and so, stated his disagreement in a level manner.

He has not run around claiming that anyone who doesn't kiss his ass is obviously kissing Taunton's ass, or someone else's ass. He has not called anyone a suck-ass. Etc...

If you can't see the difference between disagreement, and personal insult or attack, then you are destined to go on having the problems you have already had. And you WILL eventually get yourself banned from this forum as well.

What I did was not a show of force.

I am not going to watch this forum go down the chute like the tavern did.

I am moderating up front.

You guys have called for that, over and over. Yet, when I do it, I am some kind of freakin nazi.

Granted, I got angry. I'd been holding off, because of the advice of the other administrators here, and had finally had just too much, and blew up.

Still, I didn't just go and ban people, willy-nilly. I let them know they were over the line, and then let them blow off some steam in return.

Nor did I pick on people I didn't like. Whether it seems like it to anyone here or not, I actually DO like everyone that has posted here.

So, problems are caused, and when I let it be known that I am not going to stand for that, then I am the problem...

Well guess what, I am not going to apologize for what I said. I meant every word of it.

If it had been Cal and Grant that had been over the line, I would have said the same thing to them. Or PlumbBill and BobbyS, or Mike Smith, and Mark Cadiloli. Or SantafreakinClause...

You will keep it civil, or you will see the outside of the door to this place as well.

One more insult or attack, in this thread, and I will close this thread. Or will completely remove it. Or will remove you.

You take it to another thread, and insult and attack, I will delete that thread, and ban your username.

You can voice your opinions without insulting or attacking others. Do so.

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Further, I am not going to listen to a bunch of whiney nit-picking, childish, "well he started it", or "well he said something worse"... Arguments.

No part of my name is "God". I am no more perfect than any of you. I can no more see and remember every detail, than any of you can. Nor can I read this thread a hundred times over, to make sure I have caught every uncrossed t, or undotted i.

If you can't see the big picture, then open your eyes. Put aside your hurt feelings. And consider how you can be a positive addition to this community instead of being negative, whiney, insulting and attacking.

Quit reacting, and start acting.

If you don't want to even try, then you will be no loss to this community...

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The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good. ~Samuel Johnson

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