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crabby1



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Water for Fuel? Yep, it's possible.
      #9864 - Wed Oct 18 2006 01:38 AM

It seems many inventions are at first considered “Of little value”. The cry goes out “That couldn’t possibly work; could it?” or “What on earth is the use of that” and the subject is never raised again.

It is only when the Military becomes interested that the inventions “of little value” get considered seriously and any associated bugbears are eliminated by the experts. Hence we have had Steam Rollers, Tanks, Trains, Aeroplanes, Rockets, Radar and a host of other inventions too numerous to mention..

So it is with the idea of “Water for Fuel” proposed by Yul Brown in Australia many years ago of heating water to 1400C until it breaks down into its molecular components, Hydrogen and Oxygen and running an Internal Combustion Engine on the mixture of the two gases that later became known as “Browns Gas”. Highly respected scientists’ poo-poohed his ideas, saying you can’t get Something for Nothing. Perpetual Motion doesn’t work etc.

What is very true though, is that the Internal Combustion Engine is extremely inefficient at utilizing 100% of the immense amount of energy locked up in hydrocarbon fuels be it Petrol, Diesel, L.P.G. , Bio-Gas etc. A considerable quantity of the energy in any of those fuels is vented out of the exhaust pipe into the atmosphere and simply wasted and that’s why it stinks. It contributes markedly to photo chemical smog, greenhouse gases, micro-particle pollution and has a hidden, unacknowledged, insidiously detrimental effect on our balance of payments.

The twist is, when any hydrocarbon fuel is combined with Browns Gas in an Internal Combustion Engine the motor runs more smoothly due to the fuel being burnt super efficiently resulting in more power being supplied to the driving wheels and thus a far greater economy is achievable from a tank of fuel.

In 2005 President George W. Bush said words to the effect “We have got to get away from our reliance on oil from foreign nationals”. Since then a U.S. company has been modifying the U.S. Military Hummer fleet to run on “Aquygen” which appears to be Browns Gas marketed under a flash new name. Don’t laugh. Re-naming a good product that had an unpopular name worked well for the Zipper didn’t it. For those of us who have access to the Internet, take a look at www.hytechapps.com . My impression was, if the U.S. Military Engineers can’t get it to work efficiently, it aint gunna!

Never the less, they claim “All tests so far have been passed”. Provision is made in the retrofit to enable the Hummers to run either on Aquygen or the normal Petrochemical fuel in the gas tank. The Proprietor of Aquygen Denny Klein recently informed the U.S. Senate Committee his medium sized family sedan (a Corolla) goes 300 miles on one gallon of petrol combined with four ounces of water. That’s pretty impressive.
See U.S. Patent 6866756

If Aquygen is indeed actually Browns Gas, it is produced cheaply in a small device located under the bonnet of the car and is consumed immediately by the motor and turns back into water. Browns Gas doesn’t need to be stored under high pressure in a vulnerable storage tank nor does it require an expensive Hydrogen fuel cell or a heavy Storage Battery array. The water by-product need not be wasted. It can be collected for re-use ad infinitum.

Twenty or so years ago only the US Military were permitted to use the Global Satellite Positioning system. Wouldn’t be ironic, if President George W. Bush, was not so much remembered as the invader of Baghdad, but for having let the Genie out of the bottle and being responsible for us entering the Hydrogen age, in having Browns Gas adopted as, The Fuel Of The Future.

Perhaps the Federal and State Governments in all countries should be looking into how the U.S. Military is modifying their Hummer fleet to run on Aquygen, with a view to modifying public transport fleets similarly. But there again, wouldn’t any fuel savings so achieved, result in less G.S.T. being collected?


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calvinAdministrator



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Re: Water for Fuel? Yep, it's possible. [Re: crabby1]
      #9880 - Sat Oct 21 2006 06:11 PM

Thank you, never knew about this waterfuel. I will look at the link for some education.

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crabby1



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Re: Water for Fuel? Yep, it's possible. [Re: calvin]
      #9881 - Sat Oct 21 2006 10:09 PM

Hi Calvin, I became interested back in February when fuel prices went from the sublime 90 cent/litre to the rediculous $1.40 cent/litre. the government sits back and does nothing but collect the additional cash.I had heard that many years ago someone claimed to have been running his car on water. I googled Water for Fuel and had my eyes opened wide. Try googling the following
Browns Gas, plasmatron, nexus magazine, not taught in schools, the tom bearden website. just for starters.


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calvinAdministrator



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Re: Water for Fuel? Yep, it's possible. [Re: crabby1]
      #9882 - Mon Oct 23 2006 06:53 PM

Thanks.

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Sylvanus
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Re: Water for Fuel? Yep, it's possible. [Re: calvin]
      #9904 - Sun Nov 05 2006 05:55 PM

Agreed,

Browns gas systems are on the horizon. Ours is to be announced in Washington DC in just two weeks and will be available for V8 engines.

Check out www,bwanetwork.com/yeswecan

Much more information availble.


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crabby1



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Re: Water + Boron for Fuel? Yep, that's possible. [Re: Sylvanus]
      #9905 - Mon Nov 06 2006 12:31 AM

Hi Sylvanus, I've recently read an article in the "New Scientist" magazine where it is proposed running cars on Hydrogen produced on board the vehicle using an 18 kg pack of Boron combined with 45 liters of water. The boron absorbes the oxygen from the water and becomes Boron Oxide leaving Hydrogen which is piped off to the motor. They claim this will take them 500 km. No petrochemical fuels are involved. To refuel you will go to your gas station and exchange the Boron Oxide for a new Boron pack and fit it to your car. The Boron Oxide is shipped away to a solar powered factory that removes the Oxygen from the Boron Oxide and the recycled Boron pack is returned to the Gas station to be sold to the next customer. So in effect the car is running on sunlight. This system will work fine for cars with large boots but will gobble up most of the space in compact models. so don' t go out and sell your large Gas Gussler just yet the solution is just around the corner.

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Re: Water + Boron for Fuel? Yep, that's possible. [Re: crabby1]
      #9909 - Tue Nov 07 2006 03:51 AM

Nothing new here except the name. Check out http://www.eagle-research.com/

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crabby1



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Re: Water + Boron for Fuel? Yep, that's possible. [Re: Sylvanus]
      #9910 - Tue Nov 07 2006 04:42 AM

Yes take a look at their video also take a look at another site
http://www.wam-a-bam.com/hydrockickbank.html?hop=dekba


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