markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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Started this job last week ( or was it the week before?). Not an overly large house ( around 3,000 sq ft ) but reasonbly challenging. I'l try and find a way to post prints.
Cutting the site.
 
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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Used a surveyor to shoot the points then transferred to batter boards. 
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markcadioli
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Chalked out and ready to dig. 
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markcadioli
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First cut. 
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markcadioli
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Digging and dusting. 
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markcadioli
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Plumbers install subs. 
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markcadioli
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Typical beam junction. 
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markcadioli
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Steve completes a tie off on a section the engineer picked up on. 
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markcadioli
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and the first of 56 mtrs goes in. 
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Johnwalker
Reged: Apr 30 2002
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Mark, the concrete going in is that blinding concrete? do you box after? I've never seen it done like that we normaly have 250 high boxing then pour.
cheers John
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TLE
Reged: Apr 30 2002
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I do enjoy seeing the different building techniques employed "down under".
But some of your nomenclature leaves me scratching my head.
Digging and dusting. (dusting?)
Plumbers install subs. (my plumber is a sub!)
Blinding concrete. (?)
Keep posting the pictures - just be prepared to translate once in awhile.
Terry
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kkearney
Reged: Apr 30 2002
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I also need a dictionary. We render a pig for cracklin's, don't grease walls.
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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Hi John
No not blinding. 25 MPA. It's too big a pour to form and pour. These footings are 600 by 300 then you have another 250 above that. ( fall into one of those suckers when you're screeding and you may not get out )The reason for the split pour is when you pour mass like that it would affect the finish on the slab ( drag down literaly as its going off and give you a really awfull job )as well we use the footer to place our pegs in and then nail off the forms to them. ( Disclaimer. I never use this method. The only reason I'm doing it here is because the plans call for it. There is no brick on this job so we can't do our usual brick base. )
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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Hey Terry
"Dusting" or " Dusting Up " is derived from the material used as a blinding. This is crusher dust or cracker dust from the quarry. It's the fines left from the crushing process and is a cheap and excellent product for this purpose.
"Subs"..yes my plumber is also a sub but in this case I refer to "Sub Drains" or "Subs" for short.
A " blinding" can be concrete or sand ( or dust ) and is used to avoid using excess concrete or help bring RL's up to height.
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MikeSmith
Reged: Apr 29 2002
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pretty awsome pour... can you show the secondary forms you'll build on those footings?
also.. why didn't you do your "dusting" after the first pour ?
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Johnwalker
Reged: Apr 30 2002
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Mark , I noticed the plumbers installing drains after the slab is formed up we haven't done it that way for years. Our plumber installs sub drains after set out and the concretor works around his pipes, easier for the plumber and the concretor doesn't get his preslab messed up. Is that way its done up there or is it specific to that job.
cheers John
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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John
just job specific.
Today we got two floors poured. Beautifull day, though a mite chilly at 3 C at 6am
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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some pre pour shots
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markcadioli
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Crane and Kibble 
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markcadioli
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shower setdowns and termite barriers to penetrations 
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markcadioli
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typical form, starter bars, mesh, chairs etc 
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markcadioli
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steel forms for water tank being poured on site 
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markcadioli
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and done 
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Johnwalker
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Mark, I'll ask the obvious question, why a crane and kibble and not a pump?
What are the large plastic bases to the waste pipes? haven't seen them down here.
Big pour, always good to see it down and then check your measurements with the plan,scary eh!
cheers John
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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John
Crane and Kibble is say $400 as opposed to about $600 for a pump.
Plastic barriers are termite collars for penetrations. The slab forms the rest of the barrier except on the perimeter. In this case we can use the visual rule as it is an exposed edge. If it was brick we would have barriers cast into the edge. ( there are some pics here somewhere of the same )
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Johnwalker
Reged: Apr 30 2002
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I see the sense behind the crane.
I used Termimesh down here to do all the slab penatrations, I have done perimeter Termimesh with brick venneer its pretty expensive. I do the same with a slab and recommend to the client visual checks around the slab.
The plastic collars seem a cheaper alternative who makes them?
Thanks John
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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Today we got most of the rest of the slab poured. Early start ( too dark to read the plans to check measurements ) and Flaming cold!! 
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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John
Collars are by Plasmite. They do a perimeter barrier also a lot cheaper than mesh
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markcadioli
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A light rain slowed us down a little but it's now mostly done. Timber is supposed to turn up Monday. 
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markcadioli
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today i started setting out and laying out plates 
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MikeSmith
Reged: Apr 29 2002
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looks like low winter sun in these photos.. any frost at night ?
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markcadioli
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some Mike, not much, beautifull day today and got a bit done.
Here are some trusses going up. 
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markcadioli
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change of design and the owner wanted a bigger sliding door to their bedroom. Engineer designed this portal frame to provide bracing. 
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markcadioli
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Deck posts and beams in position 
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markcadioli
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prepping same. Posts are 125 x 125 x 4 RHS site welded to base 
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markcadioli
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trusses on plate ( hardwood top chords ) and yes Mike it is. 
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MikeSmith
Reged: Apr 29 2002
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u mean the white 1 , right ?
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markcadioli
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uh huh
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markcadioli
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Trusses are up 
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markcadioli
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and we start the pitched sections. these rafters are 8x2 hardwood and are heavy. 
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markcadioli
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My son Joel fits off one of the steel brackets we fabricated for some beams 
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markcadioli
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8x3 hardwood beams to brackets 
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MikeSmith
Reged: Apr 29 2002
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at first i thot it was u on the staging plank.. but he looks a little more fit
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Johnwalker
Reged: Apr 30 2002
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Mark, better not let Worksafe see that scaffold, hope that part of the job was done quickly and the scaffold taken down, got to be one step ahead of the bureaucrats. 
Cheers John
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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You're right about that John. Mind you, this week I was supervising a pour on the the next slab and who should be shoveling concrete but the local WHS inspector. He was moonlighting while on holidays!
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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surprise visitor today 
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calvin
Reged: Apr 29 2002
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Loc: NW Ohio
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probably trying to learn something. Think he's / she's got a chance? I see you've had a harsh winter. How's it look in springtime?
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markcadioli
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calvin
Reged: Apr 29 2002
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What's that apparatus on the eaves, below the trough? A sun screening for the windows?
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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yes Cal..owners invention
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markcadioli
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Living room floor goes down...This is Karri an Australian hardwood on a sleeper base 
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calvin
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And does it work?
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Johnwalker
Reged: Apr 30 2002
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Hi Mark,
I noticed your putting the floor on battens, we glue direct to the slab with 12mm flooring on my jobs, was that a request to do it like that or a Qld standard.
cheers John
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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No..but he's happy with it.. ( he installed it himself )
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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no John...owner had no preference but I chose to do it that way...I have glued to the floor in the past but two things precluded it this time. One the shocking job the concreters did of the floor and two with the battens you get a litle more resileince and it's a little easier on the feet. We secret nailed which is a first for me and I'll certainly be doing all future floors that way.
regards
mark
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calvin
Reged: Apr 29 2002
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Oh boy, here we go again...............secret nailed? Would that be anything like "blind nailed"?
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MikeSmith
Reged: Apr 29 2002
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my thoughts exactly....
i've got a secret..
mark, what did you nail with ... pneumatics ?
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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don't know but I guess so....through the tounge, no nails visible?
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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Mike started off with some toy thing from the States that used a wedge shaped nail, but that was as good as useless, so I went and hired a Bostich Secret Nailer that used a staple. Excellent tool and good job
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calvin
Reged: Apr 29 2002
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that Bostich floor nailer is a good tool. Beats the daylights out of whaling on the no air model with a mallet!
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Johnwalker
Reged: Apr 30 2002
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Mark, we also used a air nailer for a floor job once you got the hang of how to hit the bumper it was easy. 
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Edited by markcadioli (Sun Jan 24 2010 06:40 PM)
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Johnwalker
Reged: Apr 30 2002
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I use a flooring company to do all our floor jobs now.
I would prefer to do my own, we do a better job but with the time factor and having the right gear its not worth us doing it.
How did you find it would you make money laying these floors? Ours are glued as well.
Cheers John
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Edited by Johnwalker (Mon Jan 05 2004 12:59 AM)
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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Hi John
Don't know about it making money....there is no one around here specialzing in floors..we all do our own..Glue?..I thought of that, but was concerned about boards splitting and not being able to move ( one of the reasons the QBSA outlawed Polyurethanes for finishes )
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Johnwalker
Reged: Apr 30 2002
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Mark, all our floors are either glued to the slab or panelfloor (12 - 15mm boards). We also dont use 2 pack poly,I think the water based are ok, although we have been using Tung oil which gives a nice natural finish sort of a semi gloss to satin look which looks more natural.
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markcadioli
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I've neglected to post some finished shots of this project so here are a few 
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markcadioli
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dining sitting room 
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markcadioli
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entry from inside 
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markcadioli
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entry from outside 
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markcadioli
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Jarrah floor transiting to Tasmanian Oak steps 
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markcadioli
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Master bed and Ensuite from outside 
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markcadioli
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master bed from inside 
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markcadioli
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ensuite 
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Johnwalker
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Looks great Mark you must be pretty happy with the end result.
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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mixed feelings John. ( I lost 50K on this one )
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Johnwalker
Reged: Apr 30 2002
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Sorry Mark, I feel your pain.
Client or Architect from hell? don't answer if it drags up things you want to put behind you.
Cheers John
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calvin
Reged: Apr 29 2002
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Loc: NW Ohio
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mark, the siding around the entry? Forgive me if you 've already mentioned it, I didn't review the thread.
And as is usual, very nice job.
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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corrugated iron?
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markcadioli
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John
no,, both the client and architect were very good. A number of factors contributed. Construction commenced during the busiest period we have ever experienced. I was on Liquidated damages of $300 week. There was an extreme shortage of tradesmen and the usual broken promises of turning up on time. Then I lost one carpenter during the job and replaced him with someone not up to speed and to top it off at the end of the day I underquoted the job. The labour content was far in excess of what I'd allowed.
Ce le vie
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calvin
Reged: Apr 29 2002
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Yes, thanks. I had thought that's what I was seeing. Outside of a few quonset hut type storage bldgs, I have only seen it used as siding once b/4 on a hair salon. The whole "house". An interesting look, tho not for use on a whole residence in a neighborhood I don't think. On the salon, yeah sure. The use in your entry is pleasing. And just think of all the refrigerator magnets you could use...........
thanks.
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Johnwalker
Reged: Apr 30 2002
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I've been thru that scenario myself during the GST change over, some trades were hard to get, brickys were in demand in Sydney for the Olympics building programs and it affected things down here.
you just have to suck it up and move forward,its not pleasant though.
cheers John
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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the joys of building
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MikeSmith
Reged: Apr 29 2002
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Mark... what's the joint ?.. is it a caulked expansion joint ?
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MikeSmith
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great looking .. you can be proud..
also.. this puts you in the running as leader of our seminar on "Bidding for Profit".. or...
"How to have an interesting hobby with Deductible Expenses"
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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Mike
no joint. It's just the camera angle. What you are seeing is the first riser.
regards
mark
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markcadioli
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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I think "Bidding for Loss " would be more appropriate, or " How to almost lose your shirt on one project"
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markcadioli
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Not at all John..goood client and good Architect...just very bad estimating on my part on the labour component
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Luka
Reged: Apr 25 2002
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"so I went and hired a Bostich Secret Nailer that used a staple."
Wouldn't that be a secret stapler, then ?
;o)
Thank you for bringing this thread into the light again.
It was posted when I was still on dialup, and I never went much farther than the first few posts. (Had to wait forever for pics to load up, back then.)
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The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good. ~Samuel Johnson
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huck
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Great thread, excellent work, heartbreak about the financial end of things. The system we work under is flawed. Every bid is a guess, no one can foresee the future in detail enough to cover every scenario - and if you could, someone would underbid you.
I hate it. Oh, and try calling your doctor with this scenario: "I have a sick kid. Come by my place, on your own time, check him out, and write a detailed proposal of how you would treat him, with a price. I'll be calling several other doctors, and I'll go with the cheapest price." How far do you think you'd get with that? Heck, even the car mechanic gets paid to tell you what your car needs. Why are we expected to do it for free, and they get pissed if we don't drop what we're doing and come that day?
Again, a job to be proud of, in spite of all the rest. If people only knew...
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