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calvinAdministrator



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: FHBWEB]
      #11978 - Wed Dec 03 2008 06:53 PM

What I should really have said was make BT info more easily found, and that means better forums and other places for questions/comments/info sharing.

I know to me pulling, separating and things of that sort reek of dividing and changing a beautiful example of an information board. I hope that is not the case. If you had a search feature that could direct FHB.com viewers to already made BT posts, you wouldn't have to move anything.

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Heck



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: FHBWEB]
      #11979 - Wed Dec 03 2008 06:55 PM

>>>A Christmas Story is on. Who wanted the Red Ryder BB gun?

We all do, but the men are watching Victoria's Secret.


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CAGIV



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: FHBWEB]
      #11980 - Wed Dec 03 2008 06:56 PM

JP,

What do you mean by technical issue? SOmething that would not allow the old ID to be used?

Obviously I've been back to BT under a new name, and you haven't given me the boot. I'd like the old name back b/c of the e-mail assoicaited with it. I may not be smart enough to figure out how to change the e-mail of the new ID but when I set up a new account I could not use the old e-mail b/c it was "already" in use.


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Mike_Ryan



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: polcat11]
      #11982 - Wed Dec 03 2008 06:57 PM

I agree, whereas they don't always disappear, they do seem to get buried quickly on the "next 50", while some posts that have little activity stick to the front page.

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SquarePeg



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: CAGIV]
      #11983 - Wed Dec 03 2008 06:58 PM

I think "unbanning" the usernames is possible. I just tested it in the control tab of one of my forums (same software, if Taunton hasn't been heavily customized)

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David_Doudv2



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: calvin]
      #11984 - Wed Dec 03 2008 06:59 PM

I think Knots was expanded hugely a couple of years ago - dunno if that kind of modification is what they are thinking of -

along with making the forum searchable from google/et al - and thus allowing anyone to search the web and click into the forum discussions directly -

wasn't that long ago that BT was made 'private' was it? (entry by registering, no 'guest' status?) - I think when the switch was made to prospero that content became hidden from the search engines -


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FHBWEB



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: FHBWEB]
      #11985 - Wed Dec 03 2008 07:00 PM

OK, on to Piffin's note:

-- but to work WITH somebody takes communications. Both ways.

I'm here.

-- I'm working on a theory that maybe you are stuck in a place ... and Things just got out of hand.

Yep..

-- Let me tell you a story...

Good point. All relationships need communication, and I was just too busy to take care of BT, and it was always someone else's job. Then one day that person gave it up, I got the call, and in short order had no time for the necessary give and take (plus, when I did, there wasn't much give).

I also broke my glasses at the same age, and felt real bad b/c they cost $400 25 years ago and we had no money. I think my father decided that my eyes were cured at that point and I no longer needed them.

-- I'm also guessing that you are a techno-geek. You have some great skills with programing and working the software.

Nope, couldn't write a line of code. I'm an editorial guy.

-- But you don't feel quite so comfortable with 'folks'

Not true, although I admit that I expected all builders at Breakfest and was surprised at such diversity. My dad is a contractor, and I grew up on jobsites.

-- A simple restart.

might just happen.


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FHBWEB



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: polcat11]
      #11987 - Wed Dec 03 2008 07:02 PM

What I'm wondering is now that I can still get into the public threads I am seeing threads disappearing at an alarming rate. Non political/non religious...seemingly pretty innocent in content.

This is news to me. I haven't pulled a thread in at least 2 weeks. I'll check into it.


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CAGIV



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: FHBWEB]
      #11988 - Wed Dec 03 2008 07:07 PM

I believe what is happening is those threads are getting booted down to the tavern but without access one can not see them, if you try to go back to the thread it comes up as the thread does not exist.

I posted a topic about Dr Pepper that was bounced to the tavern. I posted it as an attempt to get back-door access into the tavern, a while ago if you posted a topic that went to the tavern you were given tavern access at that point. I was hoping it was an automated process, which it apperantly wasn't lol


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FHBWEB



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: FHBWEB]
      #11989 - Wed Dec 03 2008 07:08 PM

I don't want to get bogged down on tech issues now, but will look into these.

We all use the same software.

One big problem about switching is moving the database/archives. We could switch tomorrow if we wanted to start over. But there's a lot of good info in there that would also save a lot of dupe posts if we had a decent search engine.

We are working on using Google custom search for the site. We've tested it and finally anything on fhb.com shows up.


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rez



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: FHBWEB]
      #11990 - Wed Dec 03 2008 07:09 PM

"Some ideas kicking around are giving people blogs on FHB.com, creating an ask the experts panel, and a few others with legs. I'm also open to suggestions."

Well JP, I already have you covered. If you check out Breaktime post number 94969.1 you'll see it already has been done and for a lifetime subscription to FineHomebuilding I'll let you use it.
heh heh



snorK*


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FHBWEB



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: FHBWEB]
      #11991 - Wed Dec 03 2008 07:09 PM

@ CAGIV -- I have no idea, this software has a mind of it's own.

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polcat11



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: FHBWEB]
      #11992 - Wed Dec 03 2008 07:10 PM

.in fact, we have no idea how people get there"

Think about it. People normaly go to the web for information. A guy has a problem in the trades or with his house. He hears through word of mouth about how there is a bunch of guys on Breaktime who know practically everything there is to kow (collectively) about building...

All you have to do is ask and walla the answer appears for you.

They like, they buy mags

What do they like?.......US! They like us cause we are smart and we are strong and we are pretty.

We are good for you guys....I don't understand why you treat us so poorly.


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calvinAdministrator



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: David_Doudv2]
      #11993 - Wed Dec 03 2008 07:11 PM

I think the guest status was just to do with posting. No longer able to post as a guest-you could still read........but then again, I wasn't a guest. I've sent links to folks and I believe they read w/o registering.

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JHOLE



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: FHBWEB]
      #11994 - Wed Dec 03 2008 07:15 PM

I'll play -

Why is a "complaint" given more weight than a post? - A series of posts? - A long term record and history of posts? - A relationship between the host, the poster, and the recipient of the information?

A newbie bitch can log in, decide to be offended, complain about someone who has supported your forum and it's members for years, and be taken at face value that there was actually an issue?

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Vince



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: rez]
      #11995 - Wed Dec 03 2008 07:15 PM

Rez,
Don't hold you breath for a free subscription,
If I remember correctly all of us at North Fest were going to be given one,never happened.

Vince Carbone subcsriber to FHB since 1988,didn't renew for 2008.

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Riverside Builders
Franklin NY


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calvinAdministrator



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: FHBWEB]
      #11996 - Wed Dec 03 2008 07:16 PM

I want to make sure I get this in b/4 you keel over from the beer or the questions.

Thank you very much for coming over here and taking the hotseat in this discussion.

Honorable thing to do and I for one appreciate it.

Didn't like the silent treatment for the last couple weeks, but this is big step up.

Thanks.

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FHBWEB



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: calvin]
      #11997 - Wed Dec 03 2008 07:17 PM

@ polcat -- that was sort of tongue in cheek -- not to be too big brother, but we do know how you came (technically).

RE: treated poorly -- how was anyone treated poorly before the big boot?

Further, since we are talking, if anyone wants to know why they were either given read-only access or booted, email me and I'm respond. But don't expect immediate answers, as I get a lot of other email and have to pull your file (j/k).


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spheramid



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: FHBWEB]
      #11998 - Wed Dec 03 2008 07:18 PM

What happened to Robyn? She had jumped in and let a warning out on the rare time it was getting raucous, I know you all can't read every post, but just a little face time once in awhile, tends to keep the order in the court of jesters.

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JHOLE



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Re: Invitation: Your BT/Tavern questions answered [Re: calvin]
      #11999 - Wed Dec 03 2008 07:19 PM

Ditto Cal's appreciation.

But you got alotta hill to climb.

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