remember
Reged: Nov 09 2008
Posts: 42
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Armistice Day to the rest of the world.
This is completely OT, but I like
An Old Woman of the Roads.
-PADRAIC COLUM
O, to have a little house!
To own the hearth and stool and all!
The heaped-up sods upon the fire,
The pile of turf against the wall!
To have a clock with weights and chains
And pendulum swinging up and down!
A dresser filled with shining delph,
Speckled and white and blue and brown!
I could be busy all the day
Clearing and sweeping hearth and floor,
And fixing on their shelf again
My white and blue and speckled store!
I could be quiet there at night
Beside the fire and by myself,
Sure of a bed, and loath to leave
The ticking clock and the shining delph!
Och I but I'm weary of mist and dark,
And roads where there's never a house or bush,
And tired I am of bog and road,
And the crying wind and the lonesome hush!
And I am praying to God on high,
And I am praying Him night and day,
For a little house--a house of my own--
Out of the wind's and the rain's way.
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- Mike Rooney
Mon Coeur S'ouvre A Ta Voix
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splintergroupie
Reged: Nov 08 2008
Posts: 83
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It seems you enjoyed the John Galt character without delving too deeply into the philosophy that created him. I look at him as a product of preceding thought while you take him at face value, so the discussion bogged down when one side knows Galt represents a paradigm and the other considers him simply an action figure. It also explains the dissonance between your professed beliefs and Rand's philosophy. As we say at my house, "Entschuldigung!"
I don't think banning helped define for me where the line was as it wasn't my decision. I would have stayed and tried to keep the trains running, given the option. After this latest train wreck, i've had time to take stock of whether i want to work for an outfit that doesn't maintain its track, though.
I think what caused a lot of fur to fly is that you and some others are of the unfounded belief that only you conservatives like pony, Mooney, and you are "a certain kind of person KNOWS what their limit is for tolerating certain things". That's not a conservative or liberal trait at all, but a human one.
As to whether this is Galtville? As i recall, it was an exclusive, gated community, LOL!
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PIFFIN
Reged: Apr 29 2002
Posts: 94
Loc: Island in Maine
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Ya know, it was getting to be a lot of hard work to keep up with the mud slinging in that thread, like a one armed man trying to win a snowball fight with a whole gang of neighborhood kids, being as how you two were tag teaming me andI was on dial-up. Every darn time I made one responce, there were three more to answer to. I about wore the letters of my enter key on the keyboard.
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Excellence is its own reward!
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PIFFIN
Reged: Apr 29 2002
Posts: 94
Loc: Island in Maine
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"I don't think banning helped define for me where the line was as it wasn't my decision."
not the banning, but the situation created a need for you to decide what YOU will do or not do about it, as it has for each of us and the very reason for this thread here.
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Excellence is its own reward!
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TGNY
Reged: Jan 20 2007
Posts: 18
Loc: NYC
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No one was tag teaming you, just sometimes great minds think alike (or conversely fools rarely differ). If you want to see tag teaming, go back and look at some of the ambushes I've been through.
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splintergroupie
Reged: Nov 08 2008
Posts: 83
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Quote:
Thanks for causing me to dig my Kavanagh book out 
Happy to have caused that! I have Van singing the version you mentioned on vinyl, but Luke Kelly's (Dubliners) interpretation is still the one that makes my scalp prickle. I've heard there's a Joan Osborne version that is great...have to go check YouTube for that...
Nope, not there. We'll have to imagine it. Mark Knopfler's version is good; i'll pass on Sinead and Mary Black doing it.
I saw Seamus Heaney at a reading at UM in Missoula and didn't wash my ears for weeks after. I have a copy of Liam Clancy (IIRC) doing his "Requiem for the Croppies", gut-powerful:
The pockets of our greatcoats full of barley...
No kitchens on the run, no striking camp...
We moved quick and sudden in our own country.
The priest lay behind ditches with the tramp.
A people hardly marching... on the hike...
We found new tactics happening each day:
We'd cut through reins and rider with the pike
And stampede cattle into infantry,
Then retreat through hedges where cavalry must be thrown.
Until... on Vinegar Hill... the final conclave.
Terraced thousands died, shaking scythes at cannon.
The hillside blushed, soaked in our broken wave.
They buried us without shroud or coffin
And in August... the barley grew up out of our grave.
(Interesting...i had always heard the word as "terrorist" instead of "terraced" before looking it up just now. It seemed odd, since the Irish were in their own country, but makes more sense now...in a 'terrible beauty' sort of way.)
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Jeff_J_Buck
Reged: May 05 2002
Posts: 143
Loc: Pittsburgh PA
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Not sure yet.
Have to figure if I shoulda set the clocks an hour behind or an hour ahead.
this new universe is all so new ...
Jeff
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Dino
Reged: Nov 09 2008
Posts: 6
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Quote:
I'm not under the impression, as Dino appears to think, that i own Taunton.
I made a general observation about the behaviour of a group of people, in the hopes that it would help some of those people to "see themselves as others see them." I was most careful not to name anybody in particular, because I almost never indulge in personal attacks, even when they are clearly warranted.
I also did not say, nor imply, that all of those recently banned had indulged in the infantile behaviour of which I complained. It is apparent that some of them were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Hell, I don't even know who all of them are. I deliberately left it vague, so that no one who does not merit that criticism would be tarred by it.
And just so you know, I was not specifically thinking about you when I wrote that post.
But since you seem to think I was talking about you, and since you're always right about everything, that kinda makes my efforts to spare you moot, doesn't it?
You want feathers with that?
Edited by Dino (Wed Nov 12 2008 03:30 AM)
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rez
Reged: Dec 16 2002
Posts: 311
Loc: northeast Ohio
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These are the real Chinese ones, not those Pakistani knock-offs!
snorK* Now that's funny right there!
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splintergroupie
Reged: Nov 08 2008
Posts: 83
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Quote:
not the banning, but the situation created a need for you to decide what YOU will do or not do about it, as it has for each of us and the very reason for this thread here.
It's just a reaction to a situation, like finding frost on the windscreen means you have to scrape it off. The following analogy is too dramatic for my purposes and is ripe for being quoted out of context, but i sense some of the relief of an abused spouse who's gotten clear of the relationship. She's willing to suffer indignities in return for security; i've been willing to suffer arbitrary punishment in order to have fraternity.
I've simply decided not to insult my intelligence by typing "ghey" or "Natzi" ever again, even if the Gestapo were to tolerate my presence. There's nothing at all creative about that, while creativity is the essence of, the raison d'etre for, a John Galt.
The original Romans of Fine Woodworking fame were Galtish. The current crowd is why Rand argued against inherited wealth. The org isn't managing very well at the bottom nor apparently at the top, leading me to the conclusion that the true cause of this Obamassacre isn't likely a group of people discussing Palin's wardrobe, but rather a systemic problem in management.
Edited by splintergroupie (Wed Nov 12 2008 04:11 AM)
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splintergroupie
Reged: Nov 08 2008
Posts: 83
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Quote:
And just so you know, I was not specifically thinking about you when I wrote that post.
But since you seem to think I was talking about you, and since you're always right about everything, that kinda makes my efforts to spare you moot, doesn't it?
You're an authoritarian whose position on those of us not readily coming to heel is harsh and unnuanced. Given my brazen re-entry to BT at will, it's not far-fetched to think i might be included in the crowd of people you suspect think that they own Taunton, even if you didn't specifically call me out. I hope that explains things, though it probably won't do much for that log in your eye. Peace, dammit.
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splintergroupie
Reged: Nov 08 2008
Posts: 83
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These are free, Rez....aren't you even tempted, even a little bit??? You might find the matching printer in some alley... <G>
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Mistah_T
Reged: May 19 2002
Posts: 135
Loc: Elmira, NY
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Gesundhiet!! 
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Do NOT try this at home!!
I am a trained Professional!
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CU2
Reged: Nov 09 2008
Posts: 121
Loc: The burning tundra
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I think we're on triple daylight savings time.
Edited by CU2 (Wed Nov 12 2008 10:11 AM)
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calvin
Reged: Apr 29 2002
Posts: 2388
Loc: NW Ohio
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You can find this setting:
Current server time is: 11/12/08 10:16 AM
Choose your time offset in hours (..,-2,-1,0,1,2,..)
by going to MY HOME up top of the screen.
The display preferences should be down the bottom of the page. The default is 3 hrs later than est. This is the special Back to the Future feature.
If for some reason display preferences isn't visible-click on your name. That should expand the page.
I think.
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Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City
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MikeSmith
Reged: Apr 29 2002
Posts: 971
Loc: Rhode Island
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well, it's 7:29 here.... and it posts as 10:30.......i guess that's 3 hours of my life i'll never get back
if i forgot to mention it...
have a wonderful life
Edited by MikeSmith (Wed Nov 12 2008 10:32 AM)
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CU2
Reged: Nov 09 2008
Posts: 121
Loc: The burning tundra
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Thanks Cal. I'd already figured it out and changed it. I'm starting to get the hang of this format and liking it better.
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JHOLE
Reged: Nov 08 2008
Posts: 258
Loc: Oregon. Ohio
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The one thing that seems to be a bother is to only be able to attach 1 pic per post.
Don't know if that's a hard problem or if we can buy our way to higher capabilities. I'll help buy if we're going to stay.
Wish there was a more definitive reference to the original post being replied to, I can see future misunderstandings. Always liked that feature in BT.Maybe have to get to use the quote thing more.
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calvin
Reged: Apr 29 2002
Posts: 2388
Loc: NW Ohio
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The only way to "see" the post replied to is to click on the highlighted name at the top of the post. That'll take you back to the post that is being replied to.
now that was a clear as mud explanation.
Re: TAVERN OUTCASTS CHECK IN: [Re: JHole ]
#10575 - 11/12/08 08:28 AM (205.188.116.200) Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply
Edited by calvin (Wed Nov 12 2008 11:30 AM)
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CU2
Reged: Nov 09 2008
Posts: 121
Loc: The burning tundra
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Hey Mike - how do you embed pix here?
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