>>>"Honest to god, that is the most overpowering drag about this-no one seems to care (i.e. the operators, administrators of the site etc).

And it's that don't give a xxxx attitude that got America where it is today."<<<

I'm with ya, on the, "No one seems to care", feeling, and it is frustrating, to say the least. I get that "Second Class Citizen" feeling from them, and the way they are handling this change over.

I am trying very hard to keep a good attitude.

Well, BT is back up! Rick called while I was typing this and told me. Not sure if it's stable tho, I know some had gotten in earlier today, and in short order it crashed on him, and all but the Knots forum went down.

I'm gonna put my boots on before I got back tho!!! :-D

pb